by suitep on October 17, 2004 · 19 comments
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Then there are several sets of rooms, and several rooms within each set.
I think my favorites are the cave rooms, but I sure wish I could tidy up that fast.
Ah, I see. Click building caves and then go to town.
The stacking and the caves were both pretty cool. The hotel modifications seemed a little pointless to me.
Maybe there’s something wrong with me, but I just can’t appreciate modern art. Call me uncultured swine but I think that the whole thing is pretty pointless and boring. Rearranging furniture into wacky formations might be fun to do on your own, but having an artist getting paid for doing it? Naaaaaa.
ok good, it wasn’t just me. Some modern art i like, but on this stuff i was just lost. Especially the one where all they did was take the pillows and stack them on top of each other on the bed. I mean come on. That’s crap! And no art-degreed critic is going to convince me otherwise.
It’s not crap. He’s building forts.
Forts! I used to make ‘em as a kid with furniture and bedsheets. Hell, I’m going to go make one now.
I think the forts are cool too, but I have to agree with Rev about the hotel rooms. Putting a chair on a bed should not earn someone a check, unless there is a naked woman sitting on it.
Just like you said: Forts! Requiring no more talent or artistic insight than you had as a kid! This is art? No, (read as Spinal Tap) it’s bloody kiddie-fort-time ! I mean…you stick an electric plug into a hunk of moldy cheese and all of the sudden you’re Andy Warhol! Modern art sucks ass!
Post-Modernism is the death of all that is good in Art. Technique, skill, and vision have been replaced by an “Anyone can do it!” attitude, which is fine at the Special Olympics, but not so hot in the world of art.
I hate that bullshit “If you don’t understand it, it’s your failing not mine” crap that post-modernists use.
Funny you mention Warhol. He once said that “art is whatever you can get away with.”
If this artist can find a benefactor to pay him for rearranging furniture, then more power to him. I’m sure he’s laughing all the way to the bank.
You convince some rich old lady that what you’re doing is meaningful, throw in a bunch of pretentious rhetoric, and cash the check. Anyone who can get away with that is a good artist in my book (except for Jeff Koons – I can’t stand that hack). Sure, we all could pile that furniture around in creative ways, but this man has the cleverness to make a living at it. Is it great art? No. But is it crap? No, I don’t think so. He’s forcing you to look at a mundane, everyday object, like a room full of furniture in a new way.
I’ve sold paintings for incredibly overinflated prices simply because I could. I can draw realistically, but if I can get paid for simply slapping pigment on a canvas, then go me!
Does that make it good art? Who knows, it’s such a subjective argument. But to make a blanket statement that modern art sucks ass only means you haven’t even come close to appreciating some great modern artists.
Check out Nami Petgar, Vladimir Kush, or Mark Ryden, and tell me exactly how modern art sucks ass.
Ok, so maybe THOSE guys don’t suck ass…but what they’re doing looks more like a modern version of “fine art” than the Warhol-esque stuff that guys like Jeff Koons and Franziska Sinn are pulling out of their asses. Check out my ASCII art:
Now, I put it on poster board and sell it for $2,500. You see, I’ve forced you to look at ASCII jibberish in a new way. It’s an artistic statement about how the world of modern art sux a$$ and needs to PH34R 7H3 L33T!
By the way…people that don’t agree with my blanket statements suck ass! If you can’t make a blanket statement to quickly and efficiently judge things that you barely understand then how can you post any hateful messages on a blog? I mean, if I actually took the time to figure out if modern art was worth my time, and then I figure out that it’s NOT worth my time, then I wasted my time figuring it out!
“You convince some rich old lady that what youâ€™re doing is meaningful, throw in a bunch of pretentious rhetoric, and cash the check.”
See, to me that sounds like a con job. To be honest, I’ve always thought that was the real motivation behind most modern art–testing the limits of what other people will pay for. I also think celebrities change their names just to see if people will call them what they want.
“Heâ€™s forcing you to look at a mundane, everyday object, like a room full of furniture in a new way.”
Oh come on. You’ve never put a chair on something other than a floor? You’ve never seen pillows stacked on a bed? I thought the cave series and the stacking series were cool because he used everything in the room. To me that shows some planning and perseverance. But moving the bed in a hotel room and snapping a picture? Cubism it’s not.
Cubism? How does that pertain to what Sinn is doing? Braque and Picasso gave birth to and killed cubism. It died in 1915. If anyone took it further, it was Umberto Boccioni, who shuffled it into another movement – Futurism. If anything, we’re looking at an extension of what Marcel Duchamp did when he put a urinal on a gallery wall in 1917. It was part of the Dada movement, which stood for the deconstruction of everything. Sinn is making practically the same statement, I would imagine.
And yes, modern art is a con job. Weâ€™re agreeing to the same argument. the cave series and the stacking series were cool. Sinn absolutely showed some planning and perseverance, took the usual, and made it unusual.
Good art evokes an emotional response, whether it be positive or negative, and look at us. We’re discussing it. Doesn’t that deem Sinn’s work some merit?
I’d love to go with you to an art showing here in town sometime. There’s always free liquor offered. We’d have a hell of a good time, haha.
It’s telling that modern art shows get you liquored up on the cheap. It makes the swindle more palpatable.
I brought up Cubism because that was a movement that actually made people look at things in a new way.
I would agree with you that this is similar to Duchamp’s later work. I like Dada. I think it’s funny that artists were thumbing their collective nose at critics and “high society,” but when the butt of the joke starts buying the work, the joke kind of loses steam. I could appreciate the talent it would take to openly humiliate someone while making him a willing, unwitting participant.
But that’s not what “modern Dada,” if you’ll allow me to call it that, is doing. If nothing else, it’s already been done. They’re onto the joke. Turning art into an unnavigable world of buzzwords and eccentricity just so talentless hacks can make a buck does service to no one. It takes the talent and skill out of art, because they lose their value. I hold the Kansas City Art Institute as an example.
As an aside, I wonder how much of this could be traced back to the human potential movement. The basic assumption of modern art seems to be that anyone can do it, which pretty much invalidates any value system for judging a final product. I’m no art historian, so I won’t dare to make any claims.
Man, if you can sell &^7777- on a poster board for $2,500 then I’ll be the first to applaud your work. Actually, I think you making that would be worthwhile. It’d look like a comment on this modern, computerized age. I’d hang it on my living room wall, and I’m sure I’d get some positive responses from my guests when they came over.
But the rest of your comment only shows me that you may know what art you like, but you know little about the art market, or modern art as a whole.
And that’s fine too. Like I said earlier, good art is such a subjective argument, that at its core, it is merely a case of one man’s opinion against another. You presented your point of view, I disagreed, and presented mine.
By the way, how’s your latest exhibition going, Michelangelo?
Not so well, actually. My “Poo-on-a-stick” exhibit was doing well, but then alphamonkey comes storming through the place ranting about plagarism and that the poo-on-a-stick that he made was nearly identical.
Way to diffuse a flamer, though. I feel pacified and complacent.
Hahaha. alphamonkey‘s “Poo-on-a-stick” is a masterpiece.
So solid, and a wonderful shade of green!
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