IQs of the states

by The Good Reverend on November 5, 2004 · 14 comments

in Politics,Stupid People

I was curious to see what the average IQ was of the various US states.  Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything except this chart that happened to also show which way the votes went in the election.  Just ignore all that. smile

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  • Pragmatist

    Ha! to be fair I think Bush being a resident of Texas probably drives that states IQ down badly.  I have to put that in since Im origionaly from there.

  • alternatego

    This guy seems to have a problem with a similar chart done in 2000:

    My first thought on this chart was, “Sure, I can believe that the agricultural south and midwest might have lower IQs than elsewhere.” I want to do a chart myself that shows “acres owned” or “beans picked” per state in relation to how the state voted.  But, I won’t because I really don’t care that much.  This is my favorite quote that I’ve made up in the last 5 minutes:

    “We all have to eat, so why hate on farmers?”

  • olivesmarch4th

    As much as I would like to, I really don’t believe this can be true.  I seem to remember debunking a similar myth.

  • olivesmarch4th


    Here We Go.

    It’s not exactly the same study, but something similar.

  • Shadow Stalker

    This is completely different.  That snopes page is about a fictional report that a lot of people took seriously.  This IQ correlation is based on real data.  Whether or not that data is accurate or meaningful is a different story.

  • Shadow Stalker

    It’s kind of sad that the highest is only 113.  I can’t decide which side to believe on IQ tests.  Sure, they’re culturally biased, but does it make that much of a difference?

  • The Good Reverend

    actually, i have no idea of the validity of this and didn’t post it as such.  i’m still just pissed about the election.  And people that voted for Bush are either 1. rich and guarding their wealth over the needs of the country or 2. fucking idiots, so the chart probably isn’t too far from the truth.

  • Shadow Stalker

    I’m just commenting on the retraction in The Economist that the guy mentions on his site.

  • Thundarr

    Kerry supporters are intelligent, Bush supporters aren’t, well we knew that.  What’s interesting is the states where the election was up for grabs are all right in the middle where the blue and red cross on the chart.  The states that were huge Bush supporters are at the bottom, huge Kerry supporters at the top, and the swing vote states in the middle.  So the chart, whether valid or not, is pretty accurate.

  • olivesmarch4th

    Okay, this is getting ricockulous.  I attempted to do some actual bonafide research online to prove or disprove this chart… and the amount of left-wing media attention given to this supposed “analysis” is staggering. 

    After a while, I finally managed to find this.

    This appears to be raw data based on the year 2000 ACT (the chart the Good Reverend posted refers to the use of standardized test results to measure IQ also.)

    I would like to point out that the District of Columbia is one of the lowest-IQ areas in the nation, and voted 90% in favor of Kerry.  Furthermore I would like to say that I encountered the EXACT SAME CHART that Good Reverend posted, only adjusted for who voted Bush vs. Gore.  I would thereby like to tenatively conclude that our so-called “proof that Bush voters are stupid” is nothing but political propoganda– not only that, but done-over-and-over political propaganda.

    I would also like to add that these numbers frighten me.  I have an IQ of 137 and didn’t think that was all that impressive but looking at these average numbers makes me feel like a freaking genius.

    Finally, a bit of anecdotal evidence : my dear mother voted Bush, and so did my grandmother, and both of them are as smart if not smarter than me.  The reason Bush won is because conservative baby-boomers owned this election… and for some reason people honestly believe gay marriage is more of a threat to this nation than nuclear war.  Ignorant, mis-guided and close-minded?  Maybe.  But stupid, genuinely “three slices short of a loaf” stupid?  I don’t think so.


    Christy The Fair and Balanced Bleeding-Heart Liberal

  • The Good Reverend

    1.  I didn’t post this as fact.

    2.  100 is the average human intellect, so these averages actually make sense to me.  And while not necessarily genius level, 137 puts you right around “close to freaking genius level” (scientific name).  it is right around top 2%.  Ever thought of going to an insufferable MENSA meeting? wink

    3.  You are drawing a microscopic line when distinguishing between “ignorant and mis-guided” and “stupid”

  • olivesmarch4th

    I didn’t mean the post as a direct attack on you, GR, and I apologize if it came off as offensive. I was just trying to get to the bottom of the whole thing.  The investigation was more to satisfy my own personal curiosity than anything else, and I figured I’d share my findings.

    I just worry about people getting more and more “us vs. them” about basically anything.  Of course you would understand the dangers of dichotomizing philosophical viewpoints.

  • Shadow Stalker

    After this election, I’m thinking that sharp division is good.  That’s where the Democrats have failed for at least the last six years; we keep trying to apologize for our opponent.  “He’s not really a bad guy,” we say, “he just sees the world differently than we do.”

    In fact, our opponents are bad guys, and we need to make the voters know it.  We need to make a very clear distinction between us and them.  They have taken money, power, and opportunity from the lower and middle classes.

    Maybe I’m wrong.  People don’t seem to care about economics right now.  Maybe it’s too hard to understand.  Maybe, like the war, people are just too depressed to think about it.

  • Pragmatist

    I agree with Shadow Stalker there.  The last thign that needs to happen is “mending” the division.  And as far as the intellegence thing, well if its really true that Bush won because of the faith based vote, then it had nothing really to do with intellegence.  I feel wrong saying that because deep down I raise an eyebrow at the idea of casting aside science for a really old book.  But I suppose someone can be an intellegent person, and still vote based on faith not fact.  I think thats apart of a much bigger issue than just this election.

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