Hulk Smash! (Again)

by alphamonkey on March 14, 2008 · 7 comments

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Yup, the reboot of Incredible Hulk is set to smash theaters ’roundabouts June, and this time we’re given Edward Norton in the Bruce Banner role, while his big green counterpart gets a vein-covered steroid abusing power punker look. Huh.

The Incredible Hulk

Speaking as one of eight people who actually liked Ang Lee’s Hulk, I can’t say I’m all that excited. Hit the trailer and judgest for thou self.

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  • RazorFine

    I’m not too hyped for this one either, why mess with the one (and I mean the ONE) thing which woerked in the last film – the look?

    alphamonkey, you and I have debated Ang Lee’s “What If” version of the Hulk before. I was one of the fist to criticize the film (nice to see many of you have come around :) for it’s retarded new origin of the character (and that completely stupid Hulk vs. mutant dogs fight, really, WTF???).

    Aside from the style and look of the film the only thing that works is a single scene more than 2/3 of the movie in when the Hulk takes on a tank. That was pretty cool. The stuff about his super-villain father was not.

  • .alphamonkey.

    I keep telling you, Alan: It wasn’t a new origin. It was the Peter David explanation that ran in the comics themselves a few years back.

  • RazorFine

    Yeah and Ron Marz version of Green Lantern was also new a few years back. Doesn’t mean it works with the original, and certainly doesn’t mean I want to see a movie inspired by it.

    I don’t mind the child abuse angle which was introduced as part of developing an explanation of the rage of Bruce Banner (though I don’t think it’s really necessary), but when you take the act of his experiments causing his condition, making not his fault, you take away the tragic base of the character. Doesn’t work for me.

  • .alphamonkey.

    Isn’t it more tragic to have the Hulk be the result of his father’s egomania compounded by an already violent legacy? That’s certainly more tragic to me than ‘Hey, I saved that Rick Jones douchebag and now I’m the Hulk’.

  • RazorFine


    If it’s his experiment everyone the Hulk hurts is his fault, forever. And with the amount of damage the big brute causes that’s quite a tab. Seriously, how many folks in the Marvel Universe do you think he’s made homeless with his Hulk Smash routine over the years? Not to mention the ones he’s maimed or killed?

    If it’s his Dad’s experiment he is just a victim. It’s sadder that way perhaps, but doesn’t carry the same weight. It relieves him of all responsibility for his actions. Part of having the Hulk be the result of his own actions is that he must live with the guilt and blame, as everything that transpires after that blast is his fault – and his fault alone. Don’t make him a lesser version of Batman, someone who was transformed by another’s actions. He’s Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and should stay that way.

  • .alphamonkey.

    How is the old-style origin his fault exactly? He’s the Hulk because of Rick Jones, not his own actions. Sure he built the bomb, but he didn’t get exposed to the blast on purpose.

    What you’re talking about dovetails more in to the Ultimates version, where he deliberately subjected himself to gamma radiation to try and win the super solider contract.

  • RazorFine

    Yes, he’s exposed to the blast by saving Rick Jones (and Igor trying to kill Banner on the range), but the experiment is his. Jones’ arrival was the wildcard which caused his infection, but the series of events leading up to that moment, including the experiment itself were all Banner.

    In the original origin Banner presses on with the experiment before it’s ready (under some pressure from Ross to be sure), refuses to share his research with other scientists allowing it to be checked and double-checked, and so his hubris of his own invention is the cause of the Hulk.

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